Discussion time!

[sulwen]

I wanna talk about sub!Tommy, and Twitter is confusing with all the different threads of conversation.

And, GO!

Comments

[etharei.livejournal.com]

That's an interesting idea. (And none of us really ~know him, so we're all just speculating.) Possibly, but there's also a very strong sense of IDGAF that comes off him, so it's not about receiving approval from everyone. Maybe more like there are ~specific people he wants approval from.

[sulwen.livejournal.com]

I agree, specific people. Like, sometimes he's all, fuck off, I don't care.

[deliriousminuet.livejournal.com]

Yeah, it's that underground rocker image he's trying to project. And possibly the emo-boy deal, too. That selectivity is a huge part of those kind of scenes. Emo boys would jam a blunt pencil through their hand if it would get Pete Wentz or Gerard Way's approval, and they'd do the same thing to make the jocks at school hate them. It's an attempt to form an Us and a Them, to make sure you have an ingroup.

It stands out here because pop people don't have to do it as much, they just want as many people as possible to like them. You have to get as many radio spins as possible, climb to the top of the charts. And of course also because Adam's gay, he doesn't have to create an artificial in-group. Which would be very attractive to Tommy's desire for an in-group. I wouldn't be surprised if that's what caused emo to pick up traditionally gay mannerisms. I mean, every member of MCR is straight except I think Frank once had a crush on Gerard, and they embraced queerness so strongly they alienated themselves from the pop punk scene, which already has the Us/Them set up!

Wow, that was tl;dr in a whole OT way. Um, gosh Tommy wants Adam to grab him by the hair and force him to his knees, you can see it in his eyes.

[vlredreign.livejournal.com]

I'm in love with this comment.