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God damn. When the Torchwood fandom decides to wank, my GOD do they wank! I am frightened and actually pretty glad I wasn't around for the particular incident I've been reading about. More proof that the SPN fandom is not special in this respect: ALL BIG FANDOMS CAN BE BATSHIT CRAZY.
Also, I've written 12k in the last twelve hours. My writing muscles hurt. I'm going to try for 2k more before bed and then a 10k day tomorrow. If I can do that, I win. And then I'll promptly collapse, my fingers frozen into permanent claws. Wish me luck!
ETA: From a lovely bit of meta (I know, right? Meta? Me? Oh Torchwood...) by![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
solitary_summer:
Regardless, there remains the fact that except for those few moments and a bit of flirting early on, up until the last episode most of the time Jack and Ianto are almost doing the antithesis of what in other shows creates slashy vibes between people who never had and never will have an on-screen kiss or any kind of relationship in canon. No looks, no touches, no standing in each other's space. Except for Cyberwoman, the first time they're even on screen together for any length of time is Combat.
I find this point to be incredibly interesting. From this perspective, Sam and Dean are WAY slashier than Jack and Ianto, at least in TW S1. It speaks to the difference between slash and actually portraying same-gender relationships on screen. We often use the term interchangeably for convenience's sake, but that's not really accurate, at least in my mind. If the characters are actually shown to be in a relationship, it's not slash. And though I do dearly, dearly love seeing same-gender relationships on screen (I CANNOT STRESS THIS POINT ENOUGH: I LOVE IT), I think slash is ultimately more fun. Sam and Dean (and Jared and Jensen, for that matter) have eternal possibilities: any number of first kisses, for example, in endless different scenarios. Because we haven't seen it, we're free to create it.
And thus ends my extremely lame bit of late-night meta.
Also: apparently Torchwood is SERIOUS BUSINESS. Here I was thinking it was just this fun, pretty, and awesome but ultimately pretty shallow show, and people are actually sitting down and pulling philosophy out of it. Kudos, I say, from a fellow philosophy buff, but...wow, I just did not get that AT ALL.
Also, I've written 12k in the last twelve hours. My writing muscles hurt. I'm going to try for 2k more before bed and then a 10k day tomorrow. If I can do that, I win. And then I'll promptly collapse, my fingers frozen into permanent claws. Wish me luck!
ETA: From a lovely bit of meta (I know, right? Meta? Me? Oh Torchwood...) by
solitary_summer:Regardless, there remains the fact that except for those few moments and a bit of flirting early on, up until the last episode most of the time Jack and Ianto are almost doing the antithesis of what in other shows creates slashy vibes between people who never had and never will have an on-screen kiss or any kind of relationship in canon. No looks, no touches, no standing in each other's space. Except for Cyberwoman, the first time they're even on screen together for any length of time is Combat.
I find this point to be incredibly interesting. From this perspective, Sam and Dean are WAY slashier than Jack and Ianto, at least in TW S1. It speaks to the difference between slash and actually portraying same-gender relationships on screen. We often use the term interchangeably for convenience's sake, but that's not really accurate, at least in my mind. If the characters are actually shown to be in a relationship, it's not slash. And though I do dearly, dearly love seeing same-gender relationships on screen (I CANNOT STRESS THIS POINT ENOUGH: I LOVE IT), I think slash is ultimately more fun. Sam and Dean (and Jared and Jensen, for that matter) have eternal possibilities: any number of first kisses, for example, in endless different scenarios. Because we haven't seen it, we're free to create it.
And thus ends my extremely lame bit of late-night meta.
Also: apparently Torchwood is SERIOUS BUSINESS. Here I was thinking it was just this fun, pretty, and awesome but ultimately pretty shallow show, and people are actually sitting down and pulling philosophy out of it. Kudos, I say, from a fellow philosophy buff, but...wow, I just did not get that AT ALL.